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Post by Maxxie on Feb 13, 2014 4:29:20 GMT
Not sure where to post this but it makes sense to me to create a new thread for this. I love Harry, I really do love his character and his personality. But there's one thing that I wish JKR included in Harry's personality. He's been raised in a family that doesn't love him and I don't think that shows enough in Harry. It would make sense for him to have some sort of trauma because of that, no ? Like for example, Harry stacking food in his trunk because he's always afraid he's going to starve. Harry with self confidence issues that he's trying to work on, like persuading himself that he's not a freak. Harry being super selfish now that he can have anything he wants without the Dursleys around. Harry being afraid to stand up to teachers because he thinks they might get angry like Vernon does. Those are just ideas though, I don't want Harry to be broken or weak but I find it hard to believe that 10 years of neglect and abuse didn't mark his personality more than that. Although, I like how the more he grows up, the more he stands up to Vernon and honestly, Harry's great with sarcasm and I love it
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Post by drarry on Feb 13, 2014 6:05:40 GMT
Not sure where to post this but it makes sense to me to create a new thread for this. I love Harry, I really do love his character and his personality. But there's one thing that I wish JKR included in Harry's personality. He's been raised in a family that doesn't love him and I don't think that shows enough in Harry. It would make sense for him to have some sort of trauma because of that, no ? Like for example, Harry stacking food in his trunk because he's always afraid he's going to starve. Harry with self confidence issues that he's trying to work on, like persuading himself that he's not a freak. Harry being super selfish now that he can have anything he wants without the Dursleys around. Harry being afraid to stand up to teachers because he thinks they might get angry like Vernon does. Those are just ideas though, I don't want Harry to be broken or weak but I find it hard to believe that 10 years of neglect and abuse didn't mark his personality more than that. Although, I like how the more he grows up, the more he stands up to Vernon and honestly, Harry's great with sarcasm and I love it I definitely agree. While I don't want Harry to be weak either, at least some signs of the emotional and physical abuse he had to put up with while he grew up. I think the only logical explanation is that Harry, deep down, knew he was different. And not a bad different, either. He knew there was something special about him, and that's what kept him from taking the abuse to heart. I love Harry's personality, tbh. If his personality was more reflective of his childhood, I think the story could have panned out quite differently to how it did...
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Post by pigfartsstudent on Feb 14, 2014 4:25:08 GMT
I absolutely agree. One thing I think would be that Harry shouldn't like small spaces. After being locked in a cupboard for punishments, sleeping in a cupboard for ten years, because in short spaces should freak him out and I can just imagine him having panic attacks with that. Obviously, he doesn't, because he constantly goes into small spaces in the books, but I just feel that since sometimes he was punished by being locked in the cupboard without food, it should have had more of an affect on him.
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Post by herillusion on Feb 14, 2014 8:43:10 GMT
pigfartsstudent well alternatively i have seen some fics which he relates the cupboard to a safe place for him instead.bcos at least in there he doesn't have to face his relatives,there's no harry hunting or chores for him to do.
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Post by Maxxie on Feb 14, 2014 9:38:33 GMT
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Post by pigfartsstudent on Feb 14, 2014 10:23:35 GMT
pigfartsstudent well alternatively i have seen some fics which he relates the cupboard to a safe place for him instead.bcos at least in there he doesn't have to face his relatives,there's no harry hunting or chores for him to do. Well, that certainly is an alternative that could have happened. At least one of these options at the very least.
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Post by herillusion on Feb 14, 2014 11:48:52 GMT
i guess it all depends on the interpretation of harry's char?logically,it could go both ways,i suppose,different people do handle and perceive things in different ways,so.. pigfartsstudent Maxxie
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Post by malfoyspotter on Feb 18, 2014 1:21:03 GMT
I can see why he's not afraid of small spaces, just because he was forced to live in a cupboard for so long (the alternative would be him having a panic attack and freaking out every time the Dursleys forced him into it). He didn't have any other choice, but to learn to cope with it really. I don't know if I'd go as far as to say he's fond of small spaces though, just indifferent of them.
I do think some signs of the Dursleys neglect show. For example, how down to earth he is (to the point to where it's almost self-deprecating). If you took an eleven year old who was from a loving, caring family and gave him all the fame Harry carries, you'd think they'd thrive from all the attention to the point to where they'd get a bighead or at the very least get a little bit cocky (for all Harry's sass, I wouldn't say he's at all cocky). But instead the fame doesn't get to Harry's head at all, and maybe it's because a part of him still holds that mentality the Dursleys drilled into him that he's not special, that he's nothing, that he's as insignificant as a piece of dust, etc. There's other little things you can pick at and read more deeply into as well (like maybe Harry's reaction to the Weasleys being so warm and inviting, etc).
I do wish there were more prominent signs though. Like, if any of you have read Reparations by Saras Girl, Harry had this food thing in it where he didn't like people taking things from his plate, and I really liked that. Or maybe like him flinching at sudden movements because a part of him is so trained to dodge Dudley's punches, it's instinctive. I can kind of see why that's not in the books, just because typically you don't picture heroes flinching at sudden movements, but still I would have liked to see something like that in the books, at least in the first couple as something he overcomes as he gets more confident in himself.
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Post by herillusion on Feb 18, 2014 3:29:43 GMT
I do think some signs of the Dursleys neglect show. For example, how down to earth he is (to the point to where it's almost self-deprecating). If you took an eleven year old who was from a loving, caring family and gave him all the fame Harry carries, you'd think they'd thrive from all the attention to the point to where they'd get a bighead or at the very least get a little bit cocky (for all Harry's sass, I wouldn't say he's at all cocky). But instead the fame doesn't get to Harry's head at all, and maybe it's because a part of him still holds that mentality the Dursleys drilled into him that he's not special, that he's nothing, that he's as insignificant as a piece of dust, etc. There's other little things you can pick at and read more deeply into as well (like maybe Harry's reaction to the Weasleys being so warm and inviting, etc). I do wish there were more prominent signs though. Like, if any of you have read Reparations by Saras Girl, Harry had this food thing in it where he didn't like people taking things from his plate, and I really liked that. Or maybe like him flinching at sudden movements because a part of him is so trained to dodge Dudley's punches, it's instinctive. I can kind of see why that's not in the books, just because typically you don't picture heroes flinching at sudden movements, but still I would have liked to see something like that in the books, at least in the first couple as something he overcomes as he gets more confident in himself. i see your point abt the fame thing - no offence to draco but if he had been harry,i bet he would taken full advantage of that!but he is a slytherin after all,and has grown up in that sort of environment all his life..maybe part of it for harry is just personality.some ppl just enjoy having attention more than others,& given what he's been through in his childhood(not being allowed to do better than dudley aka not living up to his full potential though he could cos he wasn't supposed to show off he was smarter)that would have probably added on to it.i actually read that & forgot about it,so thanks for the reminder! yes,i totally agree with what you said~
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Post by acciodwarves on Feb 18, 2014 15:01:09 GMT
I can see why he's not afraid of small spaces, just because he was forced to live in a cupboard for so long (the alternative would be him having a panic attack and freaking out every time the Dursleys forced him into it). He didn't have any other choice, but to learn to cope with it really. I don't know if I'd go as far as to say he's fond of small spaces though, just indifferent of them. I do think some signs of the Dursleys neglect show. For example, how down to earth he is (to the point to where it's almost self-deprecating). If you took an eleven year old who was from a loving, caring family and gave him all the fame Harry carries, you'd think they'd thrive from all the attention to the point to where they'd get a bighead or at the very least get a little bit cocky (for all Harry's sass, I wouldn't say he's at all cocky). But instead the fame doesn't get to Harry's head at all, and maybe it's because a part of him still holds that mentality the Dursleys drilled into him that he's not special, that he's nothing, that he's as insignificant as a piece of dust, etc. There's other little things you can pick at and read more deeply into as well (like maybe Harry's reaction to the Weasleys being so warm and inviting, etc). I do wish there were more prominent signs though. Like, if any of you have read Reparations by Saras Girl, Harry had this food thing in it where he didn't like people taking things from his plate, and I really liked that. Or maybe like him flinching at sudden movements because a part of him is so trained to dodge Dudley's punches, it's instinctive. I can kind of see why that's not in the books, just because typically you don't picture heroes flinching at sudden movements, but still I would have liked to see something like that in the books, at least in the first couple as something he overcomes as he gets more confident in himself. I absolutely agree!
There are some signs: if I remember well, in one of the books Harry says that the Dursleys had never starved him, but had kept him short of food. Also, I think he didn't have as much trouble adjusting to short rations on the run in HP7 as Ron did because of this.
But I wish there were more signs, more consequences. I mean, our childhood experiences affects our behavior and personality so idk, I think it would be logical for Harry to have some sort of issues because of that.
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