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Post by Audio on May 15, 2014 20:25:17 GMT
I'm the kind of person that drives herself crazy with what ifs. So naturally since i decided to re-read the hp series they've been plaguing me non-stop. The thing that chases me around the most is the possibility of something small being completely different in a way that affects the outcome of everything. But i'm particularly interested in what would have happened if Draco and Harry hadn't been quite so rude to each other on the train to Hogwarts, or if Draco hadn't been such a stuck up little twit at Madam Malkin's. (Because interaction between those two is just so darned interesting i cant help myself) Also apologies for this because there's probably millions of fic that have worked on this premise but i just haven't found any good ones.
So yes in conclusion, any thoughts about what would have happened if those two had started off on a marginally better footing with each other? (Or hell if you want to talk about other what ifs youre more than welcome to!!! uwu )
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Post by herillusion on May 16, 2014 2:06:23 GMT
The thing that chases me around the most is the possibility of something small being completely different in a way that affects the outcome of everything. ikr!!well i guess they might have become friends!or harry might have been more open to the possibility later on maybe,at least?or he could have ended up in slytherin..otherwise i think most what ifs i've read are actually set after DH but before the epilogue(fair enough,i guess - would be hard to have to change canon events to fit around how things could have changed if they weren't arch-enemies throughout their sch life)..or even after.not that i mind that - just it's obviously diff seeing their interaction as kids and as adults. Inter Vivos by Lomonaaeren is 1 what-if AU that comes to mind,going off tangent after the incident in CoS..a snape mentoring harry fic with eventual(but of course,can't quite have it starting in 2nd year)slash. They Shook Hands by Dethryl might be more of what you're looking for,though.this is the summary for year 1 - Suppose Draco Malfoy introduced himself before he started acting like an ass. What if he had asked Harry's name before insulting Hagrid? A friendly handshake in Madam Malkin's leads to an alternate but realistic universe which is eerily like the canon, featuring a cast of first year Slytherins as you've never seen them: normal children. Join Harry Potter and his new friends as they discover their magical talents and help him to explore the world that has been kept from him these past ten years. the link i gave you is a post canon revision,and the author has written up to year 5 so far not sure if you've read it alr but if not you might want to give it a go~
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Post by fydrarry on May 16, 2014 2:37:28 GMT
My guilty pleasure is what if harry and draco were friends since first year (and harry ended up in slytherin) and re-do fics (where harry ends up in slytherin lol) Unfortunately, most of these fics don't have the strongest writing.
The fic you linked seems interesting though!
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Post by Audio on May 16, 2014 3:52:00 GMT
The thing that chases me around the most is the possibility of something small being completely different in a way that affects the outcome of everything. ikr!!well i guess they might have become friends!or harry might have been more open to the possibility later on maybe,at least?or he could have ended up in slytherin..otherwise i think most what ifs i've read are actually set after DH but before the epilogue(fair enough,i guess - would be hard to have to change canon events to fit around how things could have changed if they weren't arch-enemies throughout their sch life)..or even after.not that i mind that - just it's obviously diff seeing their interaction as kids and as adults. Inter Vivos by Lomonaaeren is 1 what-if AU that comes to mind,going off tangent after the incident in CoS..a snape mentoring harry fic with eventual(but of course,can't quite have it starting in 2nd year)slash. They Shook Hands by Dethryl might be more of what you're looking for,though.this is the summary for year 1 - Suppose Draco Malfoy introduced himself before he started acting like an ass. What if he had asked Harry's name before insulting Hagrid? A friendly handshake in Madam Malkin's leads to an alternate but realistic universe which is eerily like the canon, featuring a cast of first year Slytherins as you've never seen them: normal children. Join Harry Potter and his new friends as they discover their magical talents and help him to explore the world that has been kept from him these past ten years. the link i gave you is a post canon revision,and the author has written up to year 5 so far not sure if you've read it alr but if not you might want to give it a go~ Yes, yes! if he had ended up a Slytherin or at least saw them in a more human light things would have been so interesting! Since when you look closer into the book, they seem to be a little shaded with Gryffindor bias... Thats why seeing the Slytherin side of things is so fascinating to me. Untold stories and all that jazz. Also, thank you so much for the recs; I'll get to reading these right away! ps sorry for creeping but is your icon you? bc if so youre totally really cute!
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Post by Audio on May 16, 2014 3:53:30 GMT
My guilty pleasure is what if harry and draco were friends since first year (and harry ended up in slytherin) and re-do fics (where harry ends up in slytherin lol) Unfortunately, most of these fics don't have the strongest writing. The fic you linked seems interesting though! I feel your pain. I long for these fics and i can never seem to find any good ones. Frustration 101 tbh.
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Post by herillusion on May 17, 2014 5:46:42 GMT
Yes, yes! if he had ended up a Slytherin or at least saw them in a more human light things would have been so interesting! Since when you look closer into the book, they seem to be a little shaded with Gryffindor bias... Thats why seeing the Slytherin side of things is so fascinating to me. Untold stories and all that jazz. Also, thank you so much for the recs; I'll get to reading these right away! ps sorry for creeping but is your icon you? bc if so youre totally really cute! yes i always thought it would have been better if harry had been in slytherin in some ways - maybe he could have influenced more of his slytherin yearmates over to the Light side,sth he couldn't have managed as a gryffindor cos of the whole rivalry and mistrust those houses have going on..which draco's behaviour didn't help,i guess,but he was still a kid.and sure,hope you enjoy them! also yes that's me haha thank you! *blushes*
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Post by Audio on May 18, 2014 0:09:52 GMT
Yes, yes! if he had ended up a Slytherin or at least saw them in a more human light things would have been so interesting! Since when you look closer into the book, they seem to be a little shaded with Gryffindor bias... Thats why seeing the Slytherin side of things is so fascinating to me. Untold stories and all that jazz. Also, thank you so much for the recs; I'll get to reading these right away! ps sorry for creeping but is your icon you? bc if so youre totally really cute! yes i always thought it would have been better if harry had been in slytherin in some ways - maybe he could have influenced more of his slytherin yearmates over to the Light side,sth he couldn't have managed as a gryffindor cos of the whole rivalry and mistrust those houses have going on..which draco's behaviour didn't help,i guess,but he was still a kid.and sure,hope you enjoy them! also yes that's me haha thank you! *blushes* I definitely think that though it would seem sketchy at first a slytherin harry would have benefited everyone so much more. Like you said not only could he persuade people to the light side, but he could force the other houses to regard slytherin in a new light! The problem with this comes down to expectations and the attitude of blind acceptance most people have. Nobody seemed to stop and question the impossibility of a whole house being purely evil; when there are so many shades of gray between black and white. Perhaps they were scared or angry or they thought they couldn't trust the light side to look out for them. But whatever their reasons are i have a very srongfeeling that there was something else going on other than blind acceptance o Voldemort on the Slytherin side of things. And a slytherin harry in this situation could do so much good! He would be in a unique position to reach out to the people in his house and covert them. For example - that whole fiasco with Draco's sith year could have been avoided. But yes I'm just going to stop ranting omg. I started reading the fics and thank you so much for them again. Inter Vivos captured me from the start!
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Post by herillusion on May 18, 2014 2:52:00 GMT
The problem with this comes down to expectations and the attitude of blind acceptance most people have. Nobody seemed to stop and question the impossibility of a whole house being purely evil; when there are so many shades of gray between black and white. Perhaps they were scared or angry or they thought they couldn't trust the light side to look out for them. But whatever their reasons are i have a very srongfeeling that there was something else going on other than blind acceptance o Voldemort on the Slytherin side of things. And a slytherin harry in this situation could do so much good! He would be in a unique position to reach out to the people in his house and covert them. For example - that whole fiasco with Draco's sith year could have been avoided. But yes I'm just going to stop ranting omg. I started reading the fics and thank you so much for them again. Inter Vivos captured me from the start! yes 6th year must have been such a terrible time for draco they're all far too young to get involved in any kind of war at all,really.& a slytherin harry may have managed to have a better relationship with snape than in canon - he can't quite see him as james's incarnate when harry ends up in a completely diff house,huh?i like mentor!snape but also to be fair on the other hand a slytherin harry may have been converted to the other side instead..peer influence is a big thing,esp for harry,who has no real adult authority figures to look up to(except dumbledore i guess,but that relationship might not have been as close too had harry ended up in slytherin..?),and when you take into account the basic principle of what they had been aiming towards wasn't all that bad(bcos it should be fair that muggleborns need to know more abt the culture of a world they've gone into)..but anyway oops i've probably gone far off track :x good to hear you're enjoying them! ^^
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Post by Audio on May 18, 2014 22:13:03 GMT
The problem with this comes down to expectations and the attitude of blind acceptance most people have. Nobody seemed to stop and question the impossibility of a whole house being purely evil; when there are so many shades of gray between black and white. Perhaps they were scared or angry or they thought they couldn't trust the light side to look out for them. But whatever their reasons are i have a very srongfeeling that there was something else going on other than blind acceptance o Voldemort on the Slytherin side of things. And a slytherin harry in this situation could do so much good! He would be in a unique position to reach out to the people in his house and covert them. For example - that whole fiasco with Draco's sith year could have been avoided. But yes I'm just going to stop ranting omg. I started reading the fics and thank you so much for them again. Inter Vivos captured me from the start! yes 6th year must have been such a terrible time for draco they're all far too young to get involved in any kind of war at all,really.& a slytherin harry may have managed to have a better relationship with snape than in canon - he can't quite see him as james's incarnate when harry ends up in a completely diff house,huh?i like mentor!snape but also to be fair on the other hand a slytherin harry may have been converted to the other side instead..peer influence is a big thing,esp for harry,who has no real adult authority figures to look up to(except dumbledore i guess,but that relationship might not have been as close too had harry ended up in slytherin..?),and when you take into account the basic principle of what they had been aiming towards wasn't all that bad(bcos it should be fair that muggleborns need to know more abt the culture of a world they've gone into)..but anyway oops i've probably gone far off track :x good to hear you're enjoying them! ^^ oh dont worry about being far off track i do that ALL THE TIME. They really are so young for any kind of conflict like this, its awful. Ahh I kinda agree with you about harry being peer pressured to join the ranks, but i'm a hopelessly naive person who believes in innate goodness and i'd like to think he'd hold his own against such thoughts. And if he manages to do so i can see how it might be a mixed blessing! (But mentor!Snape yessss)
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Post by herillusion on May 19, 2014 7:11:34 GMT
Ahh I kinda agree with you about harry being peer pressured to join the ranks, but i'm a hopelessly naive person who believes in innate goodness and i'd like to think he'd hold his own against such thoughts. And if he manages to do so i can see how it might be a mixed blessing! (But mentor!Snape yessss) haha nah hopelessly naive in this case is good cos well..good to have faith in humanity??or okay in this case more like just a single human who's actually a fictional char,but yeah.i think harry's pretty amazing - to have been through so much and not turned out joining the dark side.
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Post by Audio on May 20, 2014 1:42:09 GMT
Ahh I kinda agree with you about harry being peer pressured to join the ranks, but i'm a hopelessly naive person who believes in innate goodness and i'd like to think he'd hold his own against such thoughts. And if he manages to do so i can see how it might be a mixed blessing! (But mentor!Snape yessss) haha nah hopelessly naive in this case is good cos well..good to have faith in humanity??or okay in this case more like just a single human who's actually a fictional char,but yeah.i think harry's pretty amazing - to have been through so much and not turned out joining the dark side. oh well then, i'll just call it faith in humanity then. Sounds much nicer than naïveté But oh man yeah thats why i get so pumped about Harry as a character! Because he feels so fundamentally good despite what happened to him. And his teenage moodiness which he has in spades. That's actually the reason i was rereading the hp series (not that anyone needs a reason to do so but ye); because i wanted to try my hand at writing meta about Harry and his fundamental goodness and how he turned out so different from Voldemort and what it says about their characters!
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Post by herillusion on May 21, 2014 10:31:28 GMT
oh well then, i'll just call it faith in humanity then. Sounds much nicer than naïveté But oh man yeah thats why i get so pumped about Harry as a character! Because he feels so fundamentally good despite what happened to him. And his teenage moodiness which he has in spades. That's actually the reason i was rereading the hp series (not that anyone needs a reason to do so but ye); because i wanted to try my hand at writing meta about Harry and his fundamental goodness and how he turned out so different from Voldemort and what it says about their characters! haha yeah the teenage moodiness makes it all more realistic and human,i think.can't have him all perfect and good without some flaws,huh?good luck on the meta!! sounds like it's really gonna embody the quote which goes 'it is our choices that matter far more than our abilities' LOL.i personally prefer draco though cos i just like reading abt redemption but yup they're both very interesting characters in their own right ^^
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Post by Audio on May 22, 2014 16:10:20 GMT
oh well then, i'll just call it faith in humanity then. Sounds much nicer than naïveté But oh man yeah thats why i get so pumped about Harry as a character! Because he feels so fundamentally good despite what happened to him. And his teenage moodiness which he has in spades. That's actually the reason i was rereading the hp series (not that anyone needs a reason to do so but ye); because i wanted to try my hand at writing meta about Harry and his fundamental goodness and how he turned out so different from Voldemort and what it says about their characters! haha yeah the teenage moodiness makes it all more realistic and human,i think.can't have him all perfect and good without some flaws,huh?good luck on the meta!! sounds like it's really gonna embody the quote which goes 'it is our choices that matter far more than our abilities' LOL.i personally prefer draco though cos i just like reading abt redemption but yup they're both very interesting characters in their own right ^^ Thanks for the well wishes!! And yes that quote is really perfect i might snag it for that purpose! Ahhhh but draco and redemption are completely fascinating too, because while its interesting to note innate goodness it is much harder to turn your whole world on its ear and challenge the views you've been brought up with. So while i love Harry's innate goodness, in a sense, i find Draco's road to redemption much more impressive.
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